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大家有没有发现帕尔曼和薛伟拉的爱的致意所用的乐谱不一样

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发表于 2006-3-12 07:14:00 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式

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帕尔曼的 Itzhak Perlman's Greatest Hits 这个专集里的 爱的致意 和 薛伟 的爱的致意 所用的乐谱不一样 帕尔曼的是D调的 薛伟的是E调 不只是调不一样 中间有一段的旋律也不一样

这里是帕尔曼的60秒试听 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/recs/radio/krex/-/track/B000002RZO001001/ref=mu_sam_ms_001_001/103-1760222-2407849

这里是薛伟的

http://www.xc63.com/p/9-1/S.wma

大家对比一下~到底谁是拉的原谱?

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发表于 2006-3-12 10:44:00 | 显示全部楼层
哪个都不是原版,都是改编版
发表于 2006-3-12 11:34:00 | 显示全部楼层
都是不尊重作曲家意愿

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-12 11:39:00 | 显示全部楼层

那原版在哪里啊~

鱼饵

原版的谱子发上来~~

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发表于 2006-3-12 12:27:00 | 显示全部楼层
原版是钢琴曲

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-13 01:15:00 | 显示全部楼层

我以前看过钢琴谱~是4个升号的~那怎么现在说到 爱的致意 大部分都说的是小提琴版的

我感觉Elgar是作的小提琴版的 钢琴伴奏 然后钢琴版是改编的

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发表于 2006-3-13 08:08:00 | 显示全部楼层
“都是不尊重作曲家意愿” 请问鱼儿:何出此言?难道作曲家不希望其作品被广泛演奏吗?难道所有的克拉斯勒与海费茨的改编版本“都是不尊重作曲家意愿”吗?希望“超级版主”更要说话负责!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-13 11:17:00 | 显示全部楼层

Elgar, Edward (1857 - 1934)

Edward Elgar was arguably the leading English composer of his generation and a significant figure among late Romantic European musicians. Born in the West of England in 1857, the son of a piano-tuner and owner of a music shop, he earned his earlier living as an organist, violinist and teacher in his own part of the country. After his marriage in 1889 he found himself able to move to London as a composer, but success only came later, after his return to the West Country, confirmed by the Enigma Variations, first performed in London in 1899. He wrote relatively little after the death of his wife in 1920.

Choral/Orchestral Music

Elgar wrote a number of oratorios. The Dream of Gerontius, a setting of words by Cardinal Newman, is rather different, a remarkable study of a man on his deathbed.

Orchestral Music

The Enigma Variations, with its portraits in each variation of one of the composer's friends and its unsolved musical puzzle, in the well known melody that Elgar claimed would go with the theme itself, is one of the best of his works. More familiar, if less substantial, must be the Pomp and Circumstance Marches. The concert overture Cockaigne is an evocation of London, while the Elegy, the Introduction and Allegro and the Serenade, all for string orchestra, offer music of the highest quality. Elgar's Cello Concerto, written in 1919, enjoys great popularity, not yet matched by that of the earlier Violin Concerto, composed before the war. Elgar's two completed symphonies are comparable, at least, to the work of other great symphonists of the period.

Chamber Music

Elgar wrote a number of pieces for violin and piano during the earlier part of his life. Of the smaller pieces that survive Chanson de nuit and Chanson de matin have considerable charm. Of much greater weight are the three chamber works of 1918, the Violin Sonata in E minor, String Quartet in the same key and Piano Quintet in A minor.

Piano Music

Elgar wrote relatively little for the piano, but his Salut d'amour (Love's Greeting) originally written with a German title for his wife, has proved popular both in its original form and in a multitude of arrangements.

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发表于 2006-3-13 13:21:00 | 显示全部楼层

Elgar wrote relatively little for the piano, but his Salut d'amour (Love's Greeting) originally written with a German title for his wife, has proved popular both in its original form and in a multitude of arrangements.

以上文字并没有说明其小提琴版本由谁改编?出版谱也只注明了曲作者是埃尔加。但让我们了解到:此曲的确原为钢琴所作,但小提琴演奏更为动听,流传更广;我们也听到在一部爱情韩剧中由大提琴演奏此曲,也非常优美深情。

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-14 05:14:00 | 显示全部楼层

不要叫我老弟~我还是小D

还有是哪部韩剧有爱的致意的插曲~

我同学就是韩国mm~才5年级~我也刚7年级~今天选的是4个升号的版本~然后拉的~很好~效果也不错诶~

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-14 07:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
还有 朱克曼演奏的Love's Greeting 也是E调的

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发表于 2006-3-14 12:58:00 | 显示全部楼层
小D: 祝你练琴愉快,学业进步!I'm teaching in SF Bay Area. Where are you live?
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-15 09:05:00 | 显示全部楼层

I am in New Haven CT~

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-3-18 06:42:00 | 显示全部楼层
thx~

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发表于 2009-10-10 01:27:00 | 显示全部楼层

薛伟17号要来我们这里演出啦!

梁祝!!!!!

哈哈

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发表于 2009-10-10 17:15:00 | 显示全部楼层

这个问题我也问过我老师,我老师说D调才是原版的,其他的都是改编的.

要不帕尔曼这样的老提琴家怎么会用它灌碟呢,明显是尊重原作者嘛,呵呵

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