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[选琴经验] [原创][原创]人在日本,脑子发热听声音好听买了一把捷克琴。很怕被日本人忽悠,请大家帮忙看看!!

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发表于 2012-6-25 15:09:00 | 显示全部楼层
看着挺好看的~呵呵,但是咱不是行家~
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-25 15:59:00 | 显示全部楼层
没关系 谢谢关注
发表于 2012-6-25 21:06:00 | 显示全部楼层
在日本买琴,本身价格就较国内贵很多,只要自己喜欢,就是好的,别太在乎别人的意见。声音也是各人各理解,自己觉得好听就行。
发表于 2012-6-25 23:33:00 | 显示全部楼层
你有这份心 就很好了 加油
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-26 17:29:00 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢! 努力中。
发表于 2012-6-26 19:50:00 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,日本什么地方买的?凑合用着吧!如果有什么需要的话,我可以帮忙的话,也别客气,尽力解答吧,我在大阪祝贺你进入小提琴网吧!学费并不贵,还行吧!
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-26 21:00:00 | 显示全部楼层
每月3回、2万円のコース。貴不貴不知道,學起來真是很開心。刚开始三十分钟,后来觉得时间短改1个小时。现在最大的问题是G弦拉不直,还差10cm左右感觉手臂用尽了,手腕调整也最多延长3公分左右。很是头疼。
发表于 2012-6-26 21:04:00 | 显示全部楼层
慢慢练吧,呵呵!
发表于 2012-6-26 22:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用夏京在2012-6-25 10:30:00的发言:

赫赫,卖场的日本长者说的, 油漆红重是捷克琴的特色。

这位日本长者说的不错。还有捷克琴有些特征是非常明显的。
发表于 2012-6-27 05:33:00 | 显示全部楼层
行!放心练琴吧,别在乎什么核算不核算了,也别在乎什么真的假的了.真的又能怎么样?假的又能假到哪儿去?
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-27 08:10:00 | 显示全部楼层
您好。 我真的不是特别在乎这个金钱价值,就是想多了解琴本身。
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-27 08:16:00 | 显示全部楼层
不负苦心,联系上生产该小提琴的工厂师傅了。 心里的疑问终于有了基本的框架式答案,透亮一些。 接下来还是要学习如何更深入了解小提琴。 顺便转贴,造琴厂师傅的原话。 其中一些话和几位日本师傅的观点一致。 Hi again, This is a student instrument made on our CNC router and hand finished, probably by GVG. The pegs and tailpiece, if original which they do look, are boxwood and also made on the same routers in the workshop. These good quality student instruments which were sold in large numbers all around the world from about 1997 to 2007 were unfortunately undercut by Chinese manufacturers, with labour a fraction of the cost we can achieve in Europe. An article is only worth what someone will pay for it, that said I used to sell that model for about £500 - £750 sterling here in the shop. The important thing about violins is their tone. If you have a nice one, play it and it will improve more, that is the nice thing about CNC routed instruments - they improve more than hand carved can due to the accuracy of the cut. Enjoy your violin :-) Best wishes
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-27 08:16:00 | 显示全部楼层
Hi again, This is a student instrument made on our CNC router and hand finished, probably by GVG. The pegs and tailpiece, if original which they do look, are boxwood and also made on the same routers in the workshop. These good quality student instruments which were sold in large numbers all around the world from about 1997 to 2007 were unfortunately undercut by Chinese manufacturers, with labour a fraction of the cost we can achieve in Europe. An article is only worth what someone will pay for it, that said I used to sell that model for about £500 - £750 sterling here in the shop. The important thing about violins is their tone. If you have a nice one, play it and it will improve more, that is the nice thing about CNC routed instruments - they improve more than hand carved can due to the accuracy of the cut. Enjoy your violin :-) Best wishes
 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-27 08:17:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用夏京在2012-6-27 8:16:00的发言:
Hi again, This is a student instrument made on our CNC router and hand finished, probably by GVG. The pegs and tailpiece, if original which they do look, are boxwood and also made on the same routers in the workshop. These good quality student instruments which were sold in large numbers all around the world from about 1997 to 2007 were unfortunately undercut by Chinese manufacturers, with labour a fraction of the cost we can achieve in Europe. An article is only worth what someone will pay for it, that said I used to sell that model for about £500 - £750 sterling here in the shop. The important thing about violins is their tone. If you have a nice one, play it and it will improve more, that is the nice thing about CNC routed instruments - they improve more than hand carved can due to the accuracy of the cut. Enjoy your violin :-) Best wishes

以上是造琴师傅的原话。对这把琴的出生有了进一步的认识,很开心。
发表于 2012-6-27 15:19:00 | 显示全部楼层

LZ执着,居然联系到生产厂家,厂家居然以诚相待,告诉了这把琴的大致身世。500欧元在日本人那里变成2万多人民币。又一次印证了本人的体会:什么样的水平买什么样的琴,千万不能跳跃式,否则倒霉的是钱袋子。当然不考虑钱的话另当别论。

 

不过既然买了,好好练才是正道,只要声音还过得去(声音好是不指望了)。琴艺提高了,是最大的收获。

 

这里给和我差不多的菜鸟们提个醒:行家即使拉练习琴,外行听来也很好听的(当然拉上2-3年你才会知道什么是真的好听),本人深有体会。所以如果你自己还不能确信能够把想买的琴的真实声音拉出来,说明你还不到买这把琴的火候。

 

另外,悄悄地问一声左嗓子:在日本,如这样买了琴时间不长不满意可以退吗?哪怕打个折?

发表于 2012-6-27 17:19:00 | 显示全部楼层
感觉在日本凡是沾点艺术的东西价格都贵,乐器类的推销员买的是推销的技巧,也算一门艺术。其他卖保险,卖理财产品,卖画,等等这类的基本都算行为艺术。
发表于 2012-6-29 04:15:00 | 显示全部楼层
以下是引用风雅颂在2012-6-27 14:07:00的发言:
哦哦,原来是数控机床做的琴啊?还这嘛贵?不过你喜欢声音觉得不错就行了。

确实感觉有点怪,还自夸“improve more than hand carved can due to the accuracy of the cut”。
发表于 2012-6-29 14:27:00 | 显示全部楼层
爱国要从买国货开始。
发表于 2012-6-30 01:30:00 | 显示全部楼层
根据木纹,估计在4000RMB以内~~~~ 仅供参考
发表于 2012-7-12 20:22:00 | 显示全部楼层
不好说唉 得听了才知道
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